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- - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-24 15:37
Hey, I did a match: Thinker 5.4D vs Rybka 2.2n2. 3/0, 50 games, MainBook 8.0... Here are the results:
: Thinker 5.4D        30.0/50 ·················································· 111001==11===1=1===1111=11=1===110=00=10=====1=000  600.00
2: Rybka v2.2n2.mp.w32 20.0/50 000110==00===0=0===0000=00=0===001=11=01=====0=111 ··················································  600.00

50 games played / Tournament is finished
Name of the tournament: Thinker 5.4D vs Rybka 2.2n2!!
Site/ Country: CHESSCOMP, United States
Level: Blitz 3/0
Hardware: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.80GHz 2792 MHz with 480 MB Memory
Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3 (Build 2600)

Thinker killed Rybka!! winning with 1/5 of the games over Rybka! Here are the games! http://marriottmail.com/chess/Thinker54D_vs_Rybka2.pgn

Thanks, SpiderG
Parent - By Vytron (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-03-24 15:57
Congrats to Thinker!
Parent - By Dr.Wael Deeb (***) [jo] Date 2009-03-24 17:35
A great result indeed....
Dr.D
Parent - By oudheusa (****) [nl] Date 2009-03-24 18:37
Thinker version D?!
Parent - - By XsupremeX_Guy (**) [br] Date 2009-03-24 18:50
Where did you find this Thinker 5.4D? I just found in Thinker site 5.4C.
Parent - - By noctiferus (***) [it] Date 2009-03-24 20:24
enter here

http://cid-2991af457de54bf0.skydrive.live.com/self.aspx/Public/Thinker54C.zip

and look at your right: there's a link to 54d
Parent - - By XsupremeX_Guy (**) [br] Date 2009-03-24 20:30
Thx...Yes it is there !
Parent - - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-24 20:51
It is really not officially released... But it is 30+ elo better than Thinker 5.4A.. I did a match Thinker 5.4A vs Rybka 2.2n2 and the results came out 25/50!! So it is a pretty big change.
Thanks,     SpiderG
Parent - - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-24 21:24
SpiderG

Thanx for efforts. Results are interesting.
Also try to run thinker vs bright 0.4a

noctiferus
the link is official site of thinker?

CK
Parent - - By noctiferus (***) [it] Date 2009-03-24 21:46 Edited 2009-03-24 21:57
Hi, Chessknight: yes, it is in the official site, but.. please read the sequel.

Hi, Spider.
Maybe I was wrong in posting the link, but, as I hope you know, I 'm always trying to be quite respectful towards chess engine authors: actually, as you can see in: http://rybkaforum.net/cgi-bin/rybkaforum/topic_show.pl?tid=10151, after Lance' post, I didn't use this version .

Now, 15 days gone,  it is  still available at their public site: if it were limited to beta-testers, I believe it would be deleted. BUT in their site there is still an open link to the new one...is it not officially released just because the link refers to an older engine?
Sorry if I did something wrong posting the link, but I don't believe I did...
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2009-03-24 21:55

> Now, 15 days gone,  it is  still available at their public site: if it were limited to beta-testers, I believe it would be deleted.


I repeat (emphasis mine), There is no harm in downloading the file. Its just that it is not an official release. It is not tested thoroughly and most changes are experimental. Its OK to tell users about it. They just have to be also informed about the status of that build.
Parent - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-24 21:58
noctiferus and Vempele

Thanks for posting details. Somehow I missed old thread.

Tks.
CK
Parent - - By noctiferus (***) [it] Date 2009-03-24 22:02
Ok, txs: no unfair action by me in posting.
Parent - - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-24 22:36
noctiferus

>Ok, txs: no unfair action by me in posting.


Nothig is unfair. due to your link I updated mine to D from C.
Thanx to you and Vempele.
CK
Parent - By noctiferus (***) [it] Date 2009-03-25 14:37 Edited 2009-03-25 14:39
Well, this solves any doubt about the correctness of people downloading this version...

http://cid-2991af457de54bf0.skydrive.live.com/browse.aspx/Public

Look at the last row.
Parent - - By Aaron2chess4u (**) [us] Date 2009-03-24 22:19
Why would you use Rybka 2.2n2??? Very pathetic engine compared to Rybka 3 or even other engines like Naum 4 and Fritz 11
If you test using Rybka 3 and Thinker still wins, then I will be impressed; otherwise I find this tournament useless.
Parent - - By Vempele (Silver) [fi] Date 2009-03-24 22:21
Because you get much better bang for your buck than with Rybka 3.
Parent - - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-24 22:28
i guess here we are talking in terms of FREE chess engines.
and that might leads to the tourney Thinker vs. Rybka2.2n2.
i guess.
CK
Parent - - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-24 23:49
Aaron2chess4u... Do you have any idea what the competition was for Rybka 2.2n2 vs Thinker?? Today, Rybka 2.2n2 is the best free chess engine... So how could you say that Rybka 2.2n2 is weak?? Rybka, is free. Naum and Deep Fritz are NOT!! I test FREE chess engines...
Thanks,    SpiderG
Parent - By jeandis (***) [ve] Date 2009-03-25 01:34
I downloaded today thinker 5.4c but it did not work in my pc xp 64 bits. I install MPx64 Inert but nothing. Tell me why, please
Parent - - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-25 03:40
SpiderG

>Aaron2chess4u... Do you have any idea what the competition was for Rybka 2.2n2 vs Thinker?


easy....man....easy....chill off....take it easy.
B'coz everybody can express their ideas freely.
We do not fight here. Better place would be on the board on Playchess or Yahoo or FICS.
I love Rybka 3.0 is something like fantasy, but the results SpiderG posted here is reality.

Aaron2chess4u
I also agree with Aron2chess4u that Rybka3.0 or DeepRybka3.0 might be strongest engines at present on this planet and very tough to beat.
I could not beat Rybka3.0 (Khadem on FICS) till now.
I do love Rybka 3.0, but I always prefer better performing Free or open source engines, GUIs and DataBase(s).

SpiderG
Just in case you run thinker vs bright 0.4a please do not forget to post results and pgn here.
If you have Rybka 3.0 as well, feel free to run similar tourney with both versions of Thinker 5.4C and 5.4D and post the performance difference.
Result might be interesting b'coz I love analyzing good and strong games.

CK
Parent - - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-25 04:09
Sorry... I will run the Bright vs Thinker tourney... Bright will use the drdeebiii book. (I couldn't get the updated version to work)
3/0 50 game match. Thinker will use Main Book 8.0
Thanks, SpiderG

P.S. Khadem on FICS uses Fritz 11 NOT Rybka 3. :)
Parent - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-25 04:31
SpiderG

>P.S. Khadem on FICS uses Fritz 11 NOT Rybka 3. :-)


Sorry, mis-tell,Till now I could not beat Khadem and BlackDemon, both.

>Bright will use the drdeebiii book.


Is it by default?

You may try this Thinker book HERE with Thinker5.4D, just simply unzip in Thinkers directory, that's all.

CK
Parent - - By Permanent Brain (****) Date 2009-03-25 04:12
Remember that 2.2n2 is only about two years old, and was the strongest engine back then. Also, it is still one of the very strongest engines, although a few(!) engines rank higher now. So, a match and -result which would have been the ultimate sensation in March 2007, cannot be "useless" in March 2009... Also, it is relevant for the competition among freeware only.

I'd rather say, testing a freeware engine against Rybka 3 isn't very useful (at least not until other results indicate that it can make sense; this may happen if we remember Rybka 1.0 beta :-) ).
Parent - - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-25 04:37
Thanks, ChessKnight, although I won't use it in this tourney... :) already started also
Parent - - By SpiderG (***) [us] Date 2009-03-25 04:38
btw, ChessKnight, can you use html when you post?
Thanks,  SpiderG
Parent - By ChessKnight (**) [ca] Date 2009-03-25 04:39
SpiderG

>can you use html when you post?


How? I really do not know.
Parent - By Vytron (Gold) [mx] Date 2009-03-25 10:09
You can't use HTML in your posts. For monospaced text use [tt]tt tags[/tt]
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